I'm asking this in an attempt to understand, because I never feel that any lyrics are bad. So a reason that you feel they're bad is because they're corny or cheesy--what characterizes "corny" or "cheesy" in your view, and why are those qualities undesirable in your view?
Anytime the writer is willingly vulnerable, naive, gullible, simply happy and truly free of all social pressures they risk being seen as pretentious, especially by those who demand a tough, fortified ego projection. IOW, "cheesiness" is in the eye of the beholder. Personally, I find the contrived, 21st century street-cred bravado to be both cheesy and corny. Same with the overly indulgent electronic music makers Skrillex and Deadmau5 - it's so over the top and presumptuous.
Very very cheesy and corny IMO. My Studio. Forced rhymes. Over simplified rhymes. Cliche rhymes. Over reliance on politically correct genre formulas. One person's cheese is another person's cheeseburger. If you're listening to a song you've never heard before, and you can accurately predict the word they'll use to rhyme with the line you just heard, or worse, the entire line, the songwriter probably succumbed to cliche.
When trying to follow "three chords and an attitude" as a recipe for success, those three chords simply cannot be D-A-G or G-C-D. Now, there are exceptions; GBW's "Say Something" is in the key of D and is based on chord progressions every guitar student learns in their first few lessons.
But, it's elegant in this simplicity, and throws in "agonized" variations in the string section that change it up. Others take a year-old's view of the world in general, which is all the more irritating when it comes out of a something or something's mouth one of the reasons I don't like " SELFIE", even though it's poking fun at that millenial valley girl stereotype; even showcasing that stereotype as a joke gives it too much respect.
This is subjective; pop music, along with most new music genres of the past 60 years or so, are repetitive by nature. However, there is a line somewhere between following a harmonized chord pattern and never wavering from a three or even two-chord progression "Horse With No Name", I'm looking at you.
The vast majority of love songs. Carnalia Barcus. What a great idea for a thread, haha. Anyway, I'm not sure the answers are really giving me a handle on it so far as for the most part they all seem very different to me.
I would suggest that if you've never heard a lyric that you thought was bad, and if you have no idea what the words corny or cheesy mean, then maybe language is not your strong suit. There's good cheese and there's bad cheese. There are no bad lyrics, only bad melody and music. Give me your cheesiest lyric and I will build a killer song around it.
Then please provide an example of what would bring about a unanimous consensus. Apparently, someone here takes their esteemed notion of "cheesiness" very seriously, and is a little lemony-sour about it.
Studying the greats of any genre is also a good way to grow. However, this takes time and practice. So go look at what they did. Listen to their melodies, syllables, structure, and tempo. You can learn so much by learning how to dissect the songs of the artists you respect. But we have to get you to a place where you believe in what you are writing. No one can remind you of your roots better than your favorite writers. I remember back a long time ago I lost my way.
Every time I picked up my guitar to write, I would psyche myself out. It finally got to the point that I walked away for a while. I think it was a year before I finally found my way back. What ended up bringing me back was hearing a random songwriters panel on the public broadcasting network.
As I sat and listened to the stories, there was a common theme. I watched that entire show without batting an eye. I have since made it a regular habit to watch those types of things whenever I have the opportunity. It helps me to know that they pushed through their own personal insecurities to go on and share their work with the rest of us.
Find the resolve to dig deep and push through this moment in your songwriting career. Remember, your opinion is just one of many. Get a second opinion. Listen to your favorite writers over and over. Send it to me if you have to. Dig deep and push through. You got this. Now go write it! From calling their linguistic innovations "slang", their grammar "uneducated", their intonation "insecure", to saying their music is crap.
Using the term cheesy to attribute poor taste to "girls" is telling. The origin of the word "cheesy" comes from the Urdu "chiz", meaning "thing". The negative association for an Indian "thing" is a leftover of the colonial attitude towards objects and customs of subjugated people. A cheesy thing was thought to be big or showy.
Of course, big and showy are not values of the western cultural elite. Modesty, intellectualism, the mind over the body are Protestant values.
Criticism of pop dance music often focuses on its immodesty: too big, too popular, too ostentatious, too pompous, too showy and too sexual. Pop dance music is created to inspire movement and provoke participation — but what is wrong with leaving both your head and heart on the dancefloor? You might even ask why are women more interested in dancing. Perhaps because they are allowed to display their bodies as sexual spectacles while men are more encouraged to display their bodies as athletic spectacles.
Bizarrely, this has brought an outburst that American Billboard should change its rules so she could not be the record holder.
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